Pre-owned. Thanks to your solution I will have hot water until the replacement value arrives. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946540277/. DO NOT RECOMMEND WHIRLPOOL HOT WATER HEATERS WITH HONEYWELL GAS CONTROL VALVES! Should I replace the Temperature sensor? ~ diy-home-tips.vwx.info, Home Projects: Is It A Problem That I Have Two Of Each Color Wires On My Honeywell Thermostat?. Thank you Tyler and all the responses. 4 Blinks will still happen. Take the front cover off. Right, my tank is just over 2 years old the number of posts here, Honeywell would do well to consider a recall and redesign. Got a back-up valve for free since mine was under warranty. In this case relight the pilot and try again. I have gone through several failures with this type of water heater (with the Hon. Any suggestions? In fact, not only have they not fixed the problem, some instructions I found online lead me to believe that they deliberately introduced this feature after the original design. Is replacing just the inner board still a valid option? I had the first valve replaced under the one year warranty but sears will not replace the valve under the six year warranty. I had put a piece of wire between the 2 top ones, not sure if it did anything. First, get a new valve. WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WT8840B1500 WV8840B1059 WV8840B1117 WV8840B1118. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! I want to send you a gift..paypal?? I understand that the Honeywell product is in recall. Awesome articles you post on your blog, i have shared this article on my facebook. It does have all of the same issues and the dreaded 4 flashes of death. At this point mine lit the main burner and blinked 7 a few times then blinked 1 1 1 1. WT8840 TRADE WATER HEATER CONTROLS 34-00013EF01 2 PLANNING THE INSTALLATION WARNING Fire or Explosion Hazard. With products ranging from thermostats to air purifiers, alarms and awareness to water management systems, even energy management opportunities, Resideo goes beyond installation to integration of holistic, whole-home solutions. Found three capacitors (bigger one in the middle and the other two towards one of the corners, each is mainly silver with a black small/minor segment ) and shorted all three, replaced unit and relit the pilot light, but 4 flashes still the problem. That sounds reasonable. Wow, you are the man, I used old speaker wires, a doubleAand masking tape, I dont have any clips, followed your instructionsabout five times, nothinghappening,at one point I did touch the left pin with the positive and heard a click, after that thenext three tries it all worked like you said. Their knowledge and expertise has a value. That is the valve mechanism. If the new valve is basically the same model as the old one, you dont need to pay a plumber to replace the evil valve. Thanks again to all. My light is now white instead of red and the electronic board appears slightly different. But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! I removed the circuit board as you expanded. No, No, No! Pre-Owned. This option is great because it saves you a lot of plumbing and headaches replacing the old valve. Depending on your levels of finger strength and determination, you might need the screwdriver to depress the tabs. Something to consider. Maybe I can avoid the $120 labor charge the next time it breaks. Whirlpool owners are fortunate that the company is sending them replacement valves. My Kenmore water heater is controlled by the Honeywell Gas Valve (part # 9007884), which contains the WV8840 Communication Port. Sponsored. I turned it back down but now the machine is offended or something and wont work at all. Honeywell and Sears/Home Depot/etc. > Isnt there any way to tell the gas valve to [reset the error condition]? The note is just a comment I know it really does not apply to your situation. The next steps may void the warranty, and Now DISCLAIMER: Do not try this at home: Untwist wires and relight pilot. When the pilot wont light and there are no flashes, the problem is generally that the heating chamber got too hot and tripped the safety interlock. If you havent done it in a while, theres a very good chance that it will help solve whatevers going on. They are the 3 thin metal posts that stick out beyond everything else in an upside down triangular V pattern. I was reading how you guys help one another and just thought AWESOME! One has a red mode indicator (the older one) and a white one. The water heater had supposedly over heated, even though I had never had it set to anything but low in the 3 years I have had it. Twist the phone wires together, the burner lit for about 20 seconds then shut off. I found the most reliable one is to install the parts without the cover and short the top two pins that go to the pilot light (left) and the main burner (right) and running it for a while. When I contacted Rheem again, without hesitation they said they were Fed-Exing me a new valve. correction on part where my friend bets me $100 its the thermo pile should have read Valve. The WT8840 water heater control from Resideo is designed for use in standing pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. and now I got myself a huge repair issue, what the hell is wrong with kenmore and Honeywell to make a dial that allows you to raise the temp up to A,B,C AND VERY HOT and just by putting it up to A now I get 4 blinking lights and have to pay a repair technician to come give me a diagnostic! Removal of the 3 pin wire to the control board and pilot restart did Not work for me with the Honeywell White Light Gas Valve. Now, for the praise! This is if the controller just will not cooperate. Buy It Now. I am not sure if holding the temperature button in is electronic or mechanically acts on the pilot valve (would hope the latter). Ignite pilot then rotate to hot. Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. Wait a minute to be sure, then turn the knob to off, and disconnect (the RED and WHITE power leads first) everything and reassemble the controller normally and start it back up. I said BS, send me a new module. Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. Have fun boys! Well, a couple of hours ago, (New Years Eve), my wife ended up in a cold bath again, so I went down and checked and this time it was the 4 flash code. These things foul the sensor causing the 4 blink death light pattern. Could someone make a diagram or snap a pic and circle what posts to jumper? I must say the internet is a life saver for problems like these. My heater approximately 3 years old. In case you havent seen one before, its called a flat-bladed screwdriver.. Four flashes only happens if the water overheated different problem. Ive been reading the above posts with great interest. Be gentle; its only plastic. I finally decided I would remove the burner unit & giveit a thorough cleaning (blow, brush & vacuum the screen) in the morning. Now understand, Im a DIYer, but by no means am I a professional in plumbing, gas, electric or heating/cooling Im a computer guy that does home projects from time to time. Here is what I did with pictures to solve this issue. My error condition began with very short intervals of error which reset themselves without my doing anything. It is now running with no problems thank you for saving me 125$ plus shipping. The water heater wouldnt re-light, but I noticed that the indicator was blinking four times in succession. Thanks guys!!! I just frankenvalved my unit last night and it is working like a charm! I have another place with a Rheem Propane Tankless where the lowest normal setting is 100F. The pilot would light and I let it sit for a few minutes running on pilot. My Whirlpool gas water heater is giving me the dreaded four blinks signal. I suspect that shorting the posts is the way the Sears tech did it the first time. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part thats gone on strike. Thank you all for your help. Remove the ivory-colored plastic front of the gas valve from the back of the unit. Ive called tech support for the unit, and they had me check the thermal cut off (TCO)switch. I am beyond pissed, Reliant has a warrantee but it dont cover parts!!! The screw on the back of the control board is a Torx T-15 size. Its a Reliant water heater, but at Menards. Good info here, had 4 flashes, remove white valve cover after lighting pilot, place a jumper wire across two posts that were right side top , pilot quit, waited, relit pilot, turn gas control to low, main burner lit. I called toll-free number on side of tank (877-817-6750), described my issue and gave a serial number. Now when the pilot starts and the pilot valve pulls in, and the status light starts blinking, look at the code. I also examined the circuit board and noticed a few minor differences, but I think the real problem was in the design and components. On relighting, I got the dreaded 4 blinks. We are dealing with possible gas leak & explosion here guys! Cold water for 3 days in winter. While I didnt have any leaks, I was sweating bullets during the testing and first fire up of the furnace. DB: Instructions are clear and hope to follow this to override the Honeywell piece of crap Gas Control Thermostat on my 2.5 year old 50gal tank. This piece of junk is only 13 months old. The valve in my heater is a revision C and has a blue status LED for normal. I dont know if this will last or not but it got us a reprieve as were hosting my daughters wedding shower in 2 days. Folks, here is the problem with this controller design. If you need to look at the back to see how the tabs are arranged, look at the new valve. Now I have two fail in 27 months. and I am spreading the word, i bought 2 water heaters for 2 rentals from homedepo with the honeywell (status poop valve), i have no idea how one hasnt blown, (1) 1st. This is the second time Ive had to replace the valve. I turned the knob to the on position and the burner kicked on. It Is Designed For Use In Standing Pilot Applications Using An Immersion Well For Water Temperature Sensing. Took the board out and just touched everything with the cross wire and let it sit. Should be some code or combination of codes, possibly including a 7. Thanks to this blog and everyones exploits with the Frankenvalve Heres what worked so far for me on a neighbors unit: They have a manual shut off. This does not seem to be documented anywhere. heres what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. Checked the wiring. Then This year the pilot went out and I tried to re-light by pressing the red knob pointed at PILOT and pressing the square igniter button. Reverse the above steps to mount the new front onto the old back thats still hooked to the water heater. My replacement valve had the same stainless steel cap as the old one, so will likely develop the same scaling. Clearly the valve controller is mis-designed. This last time, that did not work which led me to this posting and Rauls simple fix. step by step please for dummies. I shorted the 2 pins on top of the module base for maybe 30 seconds. When I checked the water heater the status light was not blinking at all. Any way, the pilot fired up rather quickly and flashed one time every three seconds! The Jaccuzi is available at Lowes. worked for me. Emptied tank and there wasnt much sediment. day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech ive installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what Im doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didnt cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, thats whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesnt stay on & the status lite doesnt come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me oh thats an E-Z one & no brainner its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z theyll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didnt feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said ill bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely youll get wrong diagnosed, so Im gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling theyre valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? Hot water is a good thing!! These Honeywell gas controls include a manual gas valve, safety shutoff, single millivoltage automatic operator, and pressure regulator, pilot gas filter and flow adjustment, pressure tapping, and thermocouple connector. Ill let you know how it worked out. Should I bootstrap the thing by supplying my own voltage of 750mv and try David Boones most excellent fault reset procedure? If I had just changed out the circuit boards on the old control valve Id not have gained the better sensor. Maybe it should be Teflon coated if that interaction is suspect? Once you have selected the product category you are interested in, the contact information for sales related questions and technical product related questions will display . Water Heater Gas Control Valve For Honeywell Whirlpool WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042. Pull the black clips on the red and white wires straight outwards to unplug them. I didnt want the sealant to contaminate my water. Any ideas? All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. Thanks! And everybody wonders why plumbers charge what they do. Thank you Cranky Tenants and Dave Boone! ! coming from me! Flushing the tank regularly prevents many problems. I lit the pilot, and the indicator returned to 1 regular blink (the sign of normal function) as the gas flowed to the burner and ignited. The water heater would not work properly right out of the box. Had a 7 blinking light. I was afraid of cooking the old board. Slide the power switch on All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. To be continued. Correction, meant to say gas control valve, not thermostat. The first time a friend was able to turn the pilot light back on with no problem. So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Includes an integrated NTC temperature sensor. If so, I want him shot. Oh and THISis what it looks like in the little window when your BURNERSare running (water heater is heating).