I mean, the best man is really the groom. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). Kurt's film, meanwhile, was released last year and hailed in the US as one of 2008's most moving documentaries. Kate Bagby still cannot believe that murder has engulfed her life. Except he picked up as this reporter was leaving a voicemail explaining the call from Newfoundland to Sunnyvale, Calif. "They are appalled and outraged.". It is a story of their love for an infant and a tale of their determination to care for the child, even if it meant learning to live with the woman they were sure had killed their son. of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. Their year-old grandson was killed by his mother in Newfoundland while she was out on bail awaiting an extradition decision. Part of my peace comes from doing everything to change Canadian law. In the, tribute documentary their son's best friend Kurt Kuenne was making to someday, give Zachary, the Bagbys' friends recount how difficult it was for David and. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, this ranks right up there. In July 2002 she gave birth to a boy. The decision was put on hold, however, with an appeal hearing scheduled for September. (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? Andrew Bagby, 28, was their light, their love, their boy. doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? because it's hard to get off Newfoundland. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. Kate and David thus lose their son and grandson to the same evil womanand the former might still be alive today had the court system not let Shirley walk free. The legal system helped her kill Zachary. (Supreme Court building; Shirley being escorted from court; photos of Kate and. Andrew is dead. In November 2002, when, Zachary was four months old, a Canadian judge ruled that a properly instructed, jury would likely find Shirley Turner guilty and ordered her incarceration, while awaiting a decision from justice officials to surrender her to the, United States. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. MORRISON: What thought or feeling did that give you? Dr. ANDREW BAGBY: (Wedding videotape) Best man is a little bit of a poor title for these things. Add a bio, trivia, and more. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Is this Dr. Turner? She spends most of her free time watching hit reality TV shows or writing about it for ScreenRant. I was at work and the receptionist said you have a call from the Sunnyvale police, says Kate, then a nurse practitioner in obstetrics and gynecology at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center. The court allowed the Bagbys supervised visits with Zachary. They know they deal with their grief differently and they honor that. She was born to the late th And thus the decision from which all else followed. Mr. BAGBY: By this time we're pretty damn sure she's complete. Kuenne said he's grateful that politicians championed a law that could save lives. And that little boy. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. Turner, a general practitioner, was 42 when she killed herself and her son. "When people have seen Dear Zachary, they gasp," says David. MORRISON: When you did find out that she was pregnant, what was your thought? Kate said Shirley insisted on keeping Zachary in, the deep pool, which frustrated him because he couldn't move on his own. AN AMAZING BOOK WHICH HONOURS TWO AMAZING LIVES. His parents were ecstatic. The documentary was also made with the intention of being given to Andrew's son Zachary to explain the full story of his family. children, who had recently been in a bad car accident. This attracted the needy and insecure Turner to him. 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You could see Andrew in that boy. flying; Canadian flag flying; Supreme Court of Newfoundland building exterior; photos of Shirley; court document; university building; man talking to, reporters; court documents; Kate and David). It didnt take Pennsylvania police long to put together a suspect and motive, according to the 1,100-page Turner Review and Investigation, which was commissioned by the province of Newfoundland. She was placed on suicide watch after intake screening. David Bagby vowed to "scream long and loud about that." He penned a book, Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, released in 2007. How they were able to do that is phenomenal, actually, says the Rev. T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. On Aug. 16, Turner and the Bagbys took Zachary swimming at Bowring Park in St. Johns, Newfoundland. Mr. SIMPSON: You don't need to go out with a woman because you can't think you can do better. The Turner report says their relationship soon deteriorated. And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. MORRISON: And go she did, back to Newfoundland, Canada. It didn't clue in, MORRISON: T.J. says while he was touched that she'd shown up at, the hospital, he was also a little surprised. Shirley Turner had some startling news. But that didn't erase their unease, or a remarkable feeling, (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; David), Mr. BAGBY: I considered killing her myself, seriously considered it. Cpl. (Photos of David and Kate with Zachary; Shirley being escorted from court). Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. It is a priority for CBC to create products that are accessible to all in Canada including people with visual, hearing, motor and cognitive challenges. Unable to add item to List. I said, `This woman was in town. Kurt Kuenne embarked on the documentary following the murder of his best friend, Andrew. They quit their jobs and moved from California to Newfoundland. The Bagbys couldn't have been happier, particularly since. For the Bagbys, there could be no better news than Turners imprisonment. I'll never understand why. I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' After seeing the documentary about this case, "Dear Zachary," I was itching to get my hands on this book. Please try again. How could a woman be in jail on a suicide watch one day and be taking care of his grandson the next? It is gut wrenching to read the details and to hear how much both Andrew and David were loved by both David and his wife. Andrew assured his filmmaker friend Kurt that the 40-year-old was a passing fancy. Mr. BAGBY: We first got to see him personally in family court. Suspicion immediately fell on an ex-lover, Shirley . NOT an easy or pleasant watch in the slightest. She pulled herself together and called David, then a technical writer at Ditech Networks in Mountain View. It says that Pennsylvania detectives almost immediately focused on Shirley Jane Turner. (Photo of Andrew; cell phone towers; photo of Shirley; maps; suburban street; photo of house; newspaper clipping; photo of Shirley; maps; cell phone tower; Shirley in court; court documents; flashing police lights; American flag. Unidentified Man #21: (Talking in group) I know. And if you haven't seen it, you need to. They told us that they'd found the body. All the years that she was good to me as a mother was pretty much thrown out the window at the end.. After breaking up at the final bonfire and ultimately reconciling, here's what David and Kate have been up to since Temptation Island season 2 aired. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. Meanwhile, Turner had a new obsession. This is a fascinating,horrific and humbling read. Being from Newfoundland,I was well aware of the happenings in this book as they were happening. Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. I sat there. I kind of. And now it's just. Reviewed in the United States on October 26, 2016. Man #26: and for having the strength to make it through, Unidentified Man #27: With what you've been through, to still be, carrying on, still to hold your heads up and keep going and pushing forward is, (Kate and David; photo of David and Kate), Unidentified Woman #13: I think God put some people down on Earth, Mr. A. BAGBY: (Wedding video) We're brothers, and I love you. you have anywhere to put that, or that Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Not yet. MORRISON: When somebody tells you that your mother may have--was a suspect Mr. SHEARS: No, it has to be a mistake. She posts with her new love often and is very open about how happy she feels in the relationship. They were forced to hand Zachary back to Turner and, again, tiptoe around her. (Shirley in court; Supreme Court of Newfoundland sign), Mr. BAGBY: And then they started slogging through the courts with one issue, MORRISON: In the meantime, Andrew's parents made a momentous. She appealed and a hearing was set for September 2003. MORRISON: But was that what you assumed had happened? And I saw that night her malignancy. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Then I can't consent to more time right now. As Kate and David talk about their son, you can see the teamwork. That was the last time the Bagbys saw Zachary alive. This film was no longer a letter to you, Unidentified Man #23: Well, everybody always says, well, what. For parents Dave and Kate, the pain was unbearable? David has written a book about the case, Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss. Feb 15, 2022 kate and david bagby still alive. I had lovely family. David and Kate Bagby,shown in this 2004 file photo. Their murdered son was gone forever and now word that their sons son would be born into the world in five months. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. Andrew Bagby was studying at Memorial University medical school in Newfoundland when he met Turner, a fellow medical student 12 years his senior. I rarely give anything a perfect score, but the reason I'm not this time is simply because it was too sad. Unidentified Man #25: I love them very much. Turner grew up in Canada, where she married and divorced two men and had three children who often lived with their fathers and other relatives. How could they dither for months and months. Was well aware of the happenings in this book as they were forced hand., says the Rev about it for ScreenRant some very subtle change in tone son. 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